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A guide to understanding liberal political philosophy

The following will be taken by some as a blanket condemnation of all liberals. It is not. It is a view based on personal experience with both direct conversation and interaction on social media.

Given the polar extremes of conservative and liberal philosophies- government is the answer on one side, government is the problem on the other- discussions involving political philosophy ar­­e often more like dueling monologues. Conservatives and liberals rarely agree on much, so when the two are engaged in a political conversation, each side typically presents a viewpoint that is diametrically opposed to the other. However, in many conversations, it’s a safe bet that logic and documented facts will be nowhere to be found.

Liberals invariably argue that their comments are strictly based on facts and logic, but an examination of conversations, particularly those on social media, show that not to be true. In the preliminary stage of a discussion, liberals (also known as progressives) habitually buttress their arguments with statements that do not directly address the issue at hand, are based on irrelevant information, or appear to be a drug-induced combination thereof. Other common tactics include side-stepping the core issue, disregarding documented facts, and, when all else fails, name-calling. While oblique responses to straightforward questions may be what oh-so-enlightened liberals claim to be valid statements, they fail miserably at presenting a reasonable response.

Another significant influence on liberal political philosophy is the lens through which those who lean left view the world. When viewed through that lens, each person is seen as either a victim or a victimizer (the latter being any person who has been financially successful). The only exception is for “defenders of the oppressed”, those people who might otherwise be termed a victimizer, but have worked (or claim they have worked) to help victims. That help typically takes the form of assisting “victims” take advantage of government assistance programs, or other methods of settling into a life of dependency. As might be expected, liberals do not address the fact that championing victims often furthers the “I’m a victim” mentality; leading someone to options that make them even more dependent on government assistance (hand-outs) simply reinforces convictions of dependency. That would never occur to a liberal because in his or her mind, victims are entitled to be supported by others because they became victims through no fault of their own. (See the Doctrine of No-Faultness below.)

My research into the motivation that prompts intelligent people to stand firmly behind foolish and often erroneous statements was instigated by a number of conversations in which I have engaged. And although some of the statements contained herein may seem cavalier, at the core they address a basic need for information that may enable conservatives in understanding that which is neither logical nor factual. Basing my conclusions on personal experience might seem limiting, but experience has shown it is not; liberals take an almost identical “chapter and verse” approach to any discussion.

With no logical explanation that would assist in a better understanding of the basis for liberal philosophy, I felt compelled to begin work on a handbook that would provide conservatives with some insight into the basis of statements made by liberals, and provide a means upon which to base a response.

Such insight can best be gained by reviewing the following doctrines. Familiarity with these doctrines will prove helpful in understanding the liberal line of reasoning, and also provide the basis for accurately predicting liberal responses to virtually any conservative statement.

Ironically, in response to the initial portions of this handbook, liberals have used the very doctrines it defines to attempt to discredit the doctrines it defines. A favorite among them is “The Doctrine of Associated Irrelevance” (See explanation below.) which appears to be the mother of all Liberal Doctrines. Keep in mind that although some of these doctrines are a bit convoluted, and were written with tongue firmly implanted in cheek, they are completely valid.

With these doctrines in hand, you will be well on your way to understanding the rationale and motivation behind statements made by liberals. Additionally, you’ll be able to respond by foiling attempts to divert discussions away from the original topic. The liberal response to redirecting a discussion back to the original topic is usually more off-topic statements in the form of different side-steps, a complete change in topics, and when the going gets really tough, personal attacks.

Some conservatives also engage in the same tactics used by liberals. However, in my experience, those occurrences are comparatively rare. They typically arise when emotions run wild and override logic.

The Doctrine of Associated Irrelevance

The Doctrine of Associated Irrelevance can be applied to a broad spectrum of issues and is almost universal in its application by liberals. It is used both to dispute fact-based statements, and to divert attention from the original issue. When a statement is backed by documented facts, or the non-factual basis of a statement is exposed, a liberal will ultimately realize he or she will lose the debate at hand. A liberal’s preferred method of avoiding an admission that he or she is incorrect is to move the discussion to an entirely different, but somewhat related subject. That fervor for side-stepping relevance is what elevates The Doctrine of Associated Irrelevance to its exalted status as mother of all liberal doctrines.

The Doctrine of Associated Irrelevance defined-

Use of facts, statements, or actions that are associated with, but not directly relevant to the subject at hand is a useful means of diverting a discussion to a subject that is associated with the topic at hand, but is in fact irrelevant.

Use of associated irrelevance is a liberal’s go to strategy because it works extremely well. Not only does the introduction of irrelevant facts divert a discussion to a different (but associated) topic, it also potentially puts the person with an opposing viewpoint on the defensive. As an example, as the national debt soared under the Obama administration, the favorite liberal response to a criticism of Obama’s policies was, “George Bush increased the national debt too. It was $10 trillion when Obama took office”.

The Association– It’s true that the national debt increased under George Bush, as it did under every president since 1957 (the last time the national debt decreased). There is in fact an association between the increase in national debt under former presidents and the increase during Obama’s term in office.

The Irrelevance– The association (national debt increases under previous administrations) is true, but those statistics have no relevance to the fact that under the Obama administration debt has increased 90%– from $10 trillion to $19 trillion. The irrelevant association of previous debt increases with current ones can be a very effective means of turning attention away from the original topic, which was debt increase under Obama. The initial response of a conservative will be to define or defend the irrelevant statement. But as soon as the conversation shifts from the original topic, the Doctrine of Associated Irrelevance has been successfully implemented. in this case of a discussion about national debt, the unprecedented increase under the Obama administration is indefensible. The fact that debt has increased under other presidents, both Republican and Democrat, indicates that neither side has acted with proper fiscal responsibility. Yet the liberal response to what has become the Mt. Everest of national debt is simply an attempt to redirect the conversation into a discussion of debt increase during Republican administrations.

On the other hand, many liberals seem to think that reference to less than judicious spending in the past has relevance to, and justifies current out-of-control spending. It’s difficult to square that thinking with the oh-so-enlightened liberal position that they’re smarter than everyone else; in essence, the liberal argument attempts to use a bad policy to justify one that’s worse.

With respect to legislation pertaining to illegal immigration reform and enforcement-

Statement #1– People who enter this country illegally are still people.

The Association– The law applies to people.

The Irrelevance– The law doesn’t challenge the fact that illegal immigrants are people. It addresses the fact that they are people who broke the law by entering the country illegally. This particular use of irrelevance isn’t so much an attempt to redirect the discussion as it is a nod to victimhood. The illegal immigrants are victims and as such victimizers should do penance by turning a blind eye to their illegal entry.

Statement #2– If illegal immigrants aren’t allowed to enter the country, or are deported, the price of fresh vegetables will skyrocket.

The Association– Many farm workers are illegal immigrants.

The Irrelevance– A potential increase in the price of lettuce is not a justification for breaking the law. Next time you get pulled over for a traffic violation, try telling the officer that you were speeding, or ran a stop sign because you wanted to get to the store before the price of lettuce increased. See how that works for you.

The Doctrine of No Faultness

The Doctrine of No Faultness became especially relevant with the advent of the Obama administration, which exonerated itself from fault by blaming all the country’s ills on the Bush Administration. However, no faultness is not a new concept; it appears to be a core value of the liberal philosophy that was simply elevated to a new level by the Obama Administration. Rather than denying responsibility, which implies involvement and fault, citing no-faultness provides a free pass; if a specific action isn’t a person’s fault, he or she isn’t responsible and can’t be held accountable. Although it’s not a formally recognized legal argument, no-faultness has a long and storied past in court proceedings, marriages and elections.

The Doctrine of No Faultness defined-

Everyone is a victim to some degree, therefore anything you do or say isn’t your fault. Through logical extension therefore, if someone said or did something in response to your statement or action, he or she is protected by the Shield of No Faultness because it isn’t his or her fault that he or she reacted to something that wasn’t your fault. The Shield of No Faultness is infinitely expandable and may be extended to anyone at any time because it isn’t his or her fault. 

The Doctrine of No Faultness ties in perfectly with the liberal view that everyone is either a victim, a victimizer or defender of the oppressed. No doubt, the actions of victimizers are a result of them once having been victims. so even though they are now victimizers, it isn’t their fault, because they were once victims, which also wasn’t their fault. Defenders of the oppressed are simply people who, through no fault of their own, were also victims at one time. However, it would stand to reason that before they were defenders, they were victimizers. They went on to become defenders of the oppressed in an effort to ease the guilt of achieving financial success– through no fault of their own.

More to come…





  1. Don’t forget Dave that everything you claim applies equally to conservatives. Your claims apply to extremists from both sides. Let the realists in the middle deal in facts and keep those who have list their grip with reality off in their own little dream world.

    • Seems to me we had this conversation about a year ago. I can’t agree with you about the Doctrines applying to conservatives. I never see or hear the “it’s not my fault” response from conservatives. That isn’t to say that all conservatives are logical and rational, however, they don’t spew the same type of regurgitated pablum that seems to be the stock and trade of many liberals.

  2. I see you drank the far rights Kool-Aid. The rantings and actions if the far right got us into this mess. The voters made it clear last year they are not interested in the nonsense coming from the far right. Try dealing in reality and facts rather than the lies, exaggerations and misinformation coming from the far right.

  3. “…what would happen if the Republicans took control of both houses of Congress and the White House.” I can offer Art a clue here. What would happen is a very quick return to sanity and putting America back on the right track. We have gone far enough down the looneytoons railroad! NONE of this admins policies and EO’s have made any sense ans they certainly haven’t aided the plight of the ordinary citizens. All we have received for our money is more LIES! LIES based on other LIES. The only remaining question is, how much longer will we tolerate it? We have all the evidence needed for impeachment. Why HAVEN’T we filed for it? Are we just trying to play nice? We did that, twice, in two elections, and look what it got us? Once ObamaCare is in full bloom, we will see premiums rise to unprecedented levels. No one will be able to afford health insurance, and, of course, the govt will fine us all! We are all heading up the proverbial creek without a paddle, about to step out of the boat. Egypt thought THEY had a grievance!

    • PCBob- I need to add a few more doctrines to cover the spectrum of liberalitis, one of which is the Doctrine of Wishful Thinking. In my experience many of the people who think things like Obamacare are end-all, be-all solutions think wishing will make it so. They wish everyone could afford health insurance, so any proposed solution that promises to deliver their desired solution is fully embraced, despite economic reality. Consequently, lies aren’t evaluated based on their lack of credibility, but as supporting documentation that the wish will come true.

  4. Not everyone who is a Conservative is far right some Conservatives are fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, etc. Many Liberals immediately classify anyone who doesn’t agree with their beliefs, agendas and statements as far right wing…again their inability to grasp reality.

  5. Read it, Understand it. The country is moving no where and clearly where the far right wing and groups like the Tea Party wish to move it is definitely in the wrong direction. With the rhetoric coming out of the far right I fear what would happen if the Republicans took control of both houses of Congress and the White House. It would be just as bad as when the Deomcrats controlled everything in 2009. As long as the extremes are controlling the parties we can’t have either one of them in control of both Congress and the White House. Moving in reverse is the wrong direction based on the rhetoric I keep hearing. We haven’t been going anywhere in over ten years starting with W’s election. The parties seem to be missing the message that the public is tired of the B.S. and keep throwing out the bums from either side looking for real leadership which starts with moderation and reaching across the aisle as Obama Promised to do until he was kowtowed by his fellow Democrats (who had the votes to overide his veto) into shoving the Liberal agenda down our throats like ObamaCare without giving the Republicans a say in the matter as towhat the health care change should be.

    And on the contrary to the other commentor I was in college when Nixon was re-elected. I have been around and understand the issues very well. Way too many of the far right reside here in Gwinnett and they stay in the same circles and don’t venture out much or else they would understand the issues from all sides as they keep repeating the same tired wrong facts that they heard from some pundit like Limbaugh or Hannity who deal in half truths and leave out pertinent facts that would lead to different conclusions.

  6. Art- your comment is both amusing and expected. You object to conservatives pointing fingers at liberals, but you find it perfectly acceptable for liberals to blame all of Obama’s failings on Bush. Guess I’m going to have to get to work on “The Doctrine of Double Standardness”.

    Orville- I appreciate you joining in, but please avoid personal attacks. Whether or not Art is a bonehead in not the subject at hand, and I don’t think it accomplishes anything to engage in name calling. Besides, that’s part of liberal doctrine. I know Art is going to take exception to that, but I have pages of liberal name calling as rreference. And to be fair, some conservatives also engage in name calling, but I have never seen conservatives use it to the degree that liberals do.

  7. BTW, Art: I don’t want the country to move “forward”. At least not in the direction it is going at the moment. We really need to move in REVERSE, and get back to the CONSTITUTION. A document I’m sure you’ve never read nor understood.

  8. I would hazard to guess that Art “maybe” graduated sometime in the ’90’s or thereabouts? Perhaps under the Clinton administration? Suffice it to say he hasn’t been around very long and hasn’t seen much. Otherwise, what you have written would have made more sense.

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